JULY MEETING OF TENNESSEE VALLEY WOODWORKERS

7/16/02

There were approximately 48 people in attendance. Bob Leonard called the meeting to order at 7:00 P.M.

VISITORS: We had one guest Karen Kirst.

ANNOUCEMENTS: Ken Gould reminded everyone that the fall seminar will be October 19^th and starts at 8:00A.M. at Dean Lutes shop. The morning session will start off talking about measurements and than go on to the 3-way mortise. The afternoon session will be about segmented bowls and there will be a demonstration on box joints. Bob Leonard passed around the sign up sheet for the lathe, which will be given away at the Christmas party. Murrell Chaltin announced that he had 4 doors to give away, which he had there.

OLD BUSINESS: Bob received a letter from John and Jamie Lovett thanking the club for the donation they received from us for the use of Falls Mills for the club picnic. Bob also thanked Maurice and Ruth for getting the chicken for the picnic. Henry Davis announced that the club made $480 from the auction and after taking out $235 for the expenses it left $255 for the club to add to the treasury. July 6^th the turning bee was held at Tom Cowans and Bob thanked the members that helped instruct and helped set up. Tom Cowan announced that there would be times when the green bowls are ready to finish that they can have a couple of people at a time come to his place and learn how to do the finishing.

NEW BUSINESS: We need to nominate officers for next year by November. The committee l consisting of Matt Brothers, Jim Toro, and Tom Cowan will handle that.

SAFETY: Maurice talked about heat exhaustion while doing outside projects in high heat and humidity. Make sure you drink plenty of water and you may also need to drink gater aid to replace the electrolytes that sweating is depleting.

MONTHLY DRAWING: The prize for the drawing was a set of counter sink drills and Howard Vaughn won it.

SHOW AND TELL: Ken Gould showed a cabinet he made from a plan in Wood Magazine. He used different woods then they suggested; he used solid cherry panels and sassafras for the rest of it. He also brought in some wood lures one of them being Big Red. Henry Davis made legs for sitting the box that holds the clubs’ tent. It can be utilized as a table when the legs are under it. Doyle McConnell came back from Utah crafts supply and they have branched out with another catalog for turning and he brought some in for us to see. Doyle said that Chris Stott from England made a turning of small women, which involved offset turning, and he showed that. He said in Utah turning has evolved into an art form. He went to the turning school there for 4 full days from 8A.M. till P.M. every day. He saw a new way to make bowls called nested bowls to utilize more of the wood. Ray Torstenson showed us how he uses suede to hold items that he is sanding so they will not move. Dave White made a rotor table out of Walnut and a couple of other types wood. Bob Leonard neighbor bought 2 chairs and he brought one in to see if anyone had a good idea of how to make them more comfortable. The suggestion was cut off 2 inches from the back legs. Bob said he wished designers would be forced to use what they design and maybe the designs would be more comfortable. Matt Brothers made 2 Jewelry boxes, one out of Walnut and Birdseye maple and one out of Walnut and Cherry. He used 95-degree hinges on them so that he did not have to use chains. He also made inserts and put brass pins in to stop inserts from coming out and they also prevented drawer from coming all the way out. Don Miller showed a Walnut bowl and a natural edge bowl. He also made a mahogany goblet and a Maple pen. Hugh Hurst brought in a walnut bowl and a Holly bowl that he got out of Tom Cowans reject pile. He used one coat of bleach on the Holy bowl. He also figured the edges of both bowls. He also showed a picture of a child’s cradle he had done a long while ago. Harold Heugley brought in turned vases made from apple and a goblet and cup.

PROGRAM: Johnny F. Carter branch manager of Sherman Williams from McMinnville and Lindsay Ryon Sales Rep from Cookeville gave the presentation.

The store in McMinnville is a full service stores both retail and wholesale. Johnny got interested in wood finishing bout 10 years ago and it is a hobby of his. Today there are many different products to finish with. Sherman Williams owns Minwax. Lindsay travels and has been with Sherman Williams for 25 years and will touch on their finishing line. Sherman Williams stain line solvent and water base will dry in 30 minutes and minwax dries in 1 to 4 hours. If there is high humidity then water base will take a long time to dry. They have improved water base as far as the problem with raising of the grain. Their solvent stains have about 15 minutes open time and if you add mineral sprits you can increase this time. Napa will speed up the process. Lacquer is easy to use and can be sprayed and you can remelt problem areas with an additional sprayed coat. You should use a seal coat and sand with 220 grit and than spray the finish coating. Lacquer will get gummy when breaking down. Cabacyclic holds color well while Lacquer will yellow in a year or so. Pre-catalyzed Lacquer can be used as a self-sealing finish and is more durable than regular laq. It has 6 months of shelf life after being catalyzed.

The Cadillac of their line is the conversion varnish and it is a catalyzed product. It has a 35 to 40 minute dry time. It can act as a self-sealer or you can put on a vinyl sealer first, the sealer must also be catalyzed. This is what is used in most furniture and cabinet shops now. Pigmented varnish is now available and can be made in any color. Kembar primer is used with it. The floor was opened for questions: Is water-soluble stain a dye or a stain? Water-soluble stain is a pigmented stain and can be sprayed. Water has to evaporate out to dry. Can it be used like a dye? Yes, you can but it will not dry as fast. It can be wiped down and has a very clear pigment. You must use a stainless steel gun for spraying conversion varnish and it must be at least 70 degrees when you are spraying. MAK will help it flow by slowing down the drying time. How do you know what finish to use for specific projects? For cabinets use either conversion varnish or cabacyclic since they are the most durable. Lacquer would be all right to use for furniture that will not have a lot of wear on it. The oil from the hands causes lacquer to feel sticky on chair arms and cabinet pulls. Polyurethane’s can be used without any seal coat. Sherman Williams white line dries crystal clear. Catalyzed varnish has 24 hours of pot life so you need to catalyze only what you will use in that time frame. Do not use varnish for outside items. Sun penetrates and it will last 2 years at the most. You can put varnish over lacquer but you can not put lacquer over varnish. When finishing wood you should have a maximum of 12 to 13 % moisture in the wood you are finishing. If you have more moisture the finish will get sticky.

Meeting closed at 8:48 and Bob thanked the people from Sherman Williams for coming.